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COVID vaccines won’t ultimately be how we get out of pandemic: Yale professor

Dr. Harvey Risch, professor of epidemiology at the Yale School of Public Health and Yale School of Medicine, provided his insights on the COVID-19 vaccine, the government’s role in managing the virus, and more in a recent episode of “The Will Can Podcast.” ,

Will Can: What is your position on the vaccine? Do you find them effective with a good public health resource tool? Are they part of the picture, but shouldn’t be the whole picture? What is your position on the vaccine?

Doctor. Harvey Risk: I think vaccines are part of the picture. I think there are people who are at a very high risk of COVID – about the poor outcomes of COVID – that they should evaluate whether a vaccine would be useful, a rational choice for them. I think more broad than this, it is unfair, that vaccines are not universal, that they have a degree of effectiveness in reducing transmission, which is the only government argument for their use of effectiveness lasting a few months. And after that, their effectiveness decreases. And there are people who have been vaccinated who are still transmitting or capable of spreading the infection, and therefore, there is no justification for isolating people on the basis of vaccine status.

And so while I think vaccines have utility, they also have dangers. Adverse events registered for vaccines are orders of magnitude larger than any vaccination campaign we have conducted in the United States. And because of that, the balance has to be assessed for each individual.

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In general, there is no indication that vaccines are needed or beneficial for children. There are children who are at higher risk, and for them, it is again a rational decision-making process to evaluate whether those children would benefit from getting the vaccine. But for nearly all normal, healthy children, this is not the case, and there is no rational reason to put children at an increased risk from adverse vaccine outcomes compared to the risks of getting COVID, which is almost exclusively in children. It is a mild cold-like illness. Which in almost all cases in healthy children gets better in two or three days.

So there are a variety of issues dealing with vaccines that span from people who should be able to take them because it’s in the interest of people who don’t need to get them because it’s not in their interest.

Can: So, let’s look at some things you said really quickly. So from everything I’ve read, I think there is solid data that the vaccine reduces the severity of the disease in a large percentage of people for a limited period of time, whether it’s five months, eight months, whatever. It appears to reduce the severity of COVID, hospitalization and potential mortality. is that fair? Is that right?

Risks: Yes.

Can: You also mentioned transmission, and I was a little surprised. I haven’t read – of course, I’m not a medical genius like you. Data that suggest it reduces transmission – so to some, again, for a limited period of time, there is evidence showing that the vaccine reduces transmission so that a vaccinated person is a non-vaccinated person. Who is less likely to pass on COVID than a vaccinated person?

Risks: I think there’s pretty good evidence if you look at what happened in Israel in this most recent wave that when they started launching boosters, the wave declined dramatically. I think this is evidence for an initial advantage in reducing transmission. But I think that — it’s not a guarantee, and I think it’s not… it’s not universal for everyone who gets vaccinated, and it doesn’t last long. Also – that benefit ends in four to six months.

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So there are some arguments for using vaccines to protect those who need to be protected to reduce transmission. But he is not the general public; It is only high risk individuals who need to be protected. And in fact, reducing the spread of COVID is counterproductive because vaccines will ultimately not be how we get out of the pandemic. Vaccines allow resistant strains of the virus to be generated worldwide. And if they don’t originate here they will come back here. And we cannot afford to repeatedly vaccinate large sections of the population every four to six months for the next decade.

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